Boris Johnson recalls his own hospital ordeal and says it is ‘simply not right’ to claim he didn’t care about other people’s suffering in an emotional second day of evidence at the Covid Inquiry
Boris Johnson yesterday launched an emotional defence of his handling of the pandemic, saying it was āsimply not rightā to claim that he didnāt care about peopleās suffering.
Appearing before the Covid Inquiry for a second day, the former PM again looked close to tears as he recalled coming close to losing his own life to the virus.
And he insisted that his traumatic experience meant that he knew āwhat an appalling disease this isā.
Lead counsel to the inquiry, Hugo Keith KC, quizzed Mr Johnson about rule breaking in No 10 during the pandemic and put it to the former PM that āyou knew how it would look but you didnāt care that muchā.
But it sparked a fierce response from Mr Johnson, who replied: āI did care and I continue to get passionate about it.
Boris Johnson (pictured) yesterday launched an emotional defence of his handling of the pandemic
Appearing before the Covid Inquiry for a second day, the former PM (pictured) again looked close to tears as he recalled coming close to losing his own life to the virus
āAnd I havenāt talked about this before in public… When I went into intensive care, I saw around me a lot of people who were not actually elderly. In fact, they were middle aged men and they were quite like me.
āAnd some of us were going to make it and some of us werenāt…I knew from that experience what an appalling disease this is.
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āTo say that I didnāt care about the suffering that was being inflicted on the country is simply not right.ā
In one eyebrow-raising moment, a WhatsApp message sent in August 2020 from Mr Johnson to his former chief adviser Dominic Cummings was revealed in which he criticised his own mask policy.
It said: āI am trying to make sense of our totally f***** up face mask policy.ā As he wrapped up his evidence last night, Baroness Hallett thanked Mr Johnson for his time and said she knows āhow hard it must be to have two days giving evidenceā.
Mr Johnson replied: āIām rather sad that itās over.ā
Giving his āfinal thoughtsā, he said although he was aware that āitās out of your scopeā, he told Baroness Hallett he hoped further inquiries could explore where Covid-19 originated, after Michael Gove was slapped down for referencing suggestion it may be āman-madeā.
He called for āsome sort of prod to the world to get the answer to the real origins of Covidā. Baroness Hallett, however, reminded him that he established the inquiry, adding: āYou set my terms of reference Mr Johnson.ā Prime Minister Rishi Sunak will now give evidence on Monday, it was announced. Yesterday the inquiry also heard about:
EAT OUT TO HELP OUT
Mr Johnson defended then-chancellor Mr Sunakās Eat Out to Help Out scheme, saying there was no āsubstantial evidenceā it caused a spike in infections.Ā
The inquiry has previously heard that Chief Medical Officer Sir Chris Whitty had branded the scheme, designed to support the hospitality sector in August 2020, āEat Out to Help the Virus Outā.
But Mr Johnson denied it was an āepidemiological gambleā to press ahead with it, adding: āI donāt think that I thought that scheme in itself was a particular gamble at the time.
Mr Johnson defended then-chancellor Mr Sunakās Eat Out to Help Out scheme, saying there was no āsubstantial evidenceā it caused a spike in infections (file image)
āIt certainly wasnāt presented to me as such, nor am I confident that there is very substantial evidence that it did indeed add to the [infection rate]… I canāt see anything that conclusively shows that it made a big difference.ā
TIER SYSTEM INSTEAD OF āCIRCUIT BREAKERā
Mr Johnson was asked why he ignored the advice of scientists in September 2020 to have a two-week national lockdown, referred to as a ācircuit breakerā, and instead opted for a tier system which started in October.
The former PM said that he went for the latter because officials were trying to ārespect and reflect the geographyā of differing infection rates across regions after the first lockdown ended.
There was no point in āclosing hospitality in Devon and Cornwall because of whatever is happening in the West Midlands or elsewhereā, he said.
He also insisted that advice about a two-week circuit breaker was ānot clearā and that although there was support among scientists, it was not backed by then health secretary Matt Hancock, who was ānormally among the toughest in wanting to impose lockdownsā.Ā
Mr Johnson (pictured) conceded that the tier system ultimately failed, saying he was āsadā about that, with the second lockdown imposed weeks later
Mr Johnson added: āThere were question marks about the circuit breaker and its efficacy and where it was tried in Wales, it wasnāt clear that it actually worked… there were perhaps legitimate grounds for thinking a circuit breaker was not a panacea.ā
He conceded that the tier system ultimately failed, saying he was āsadā about that, with the second lockdown imposed weeks later.
āLET IT RIPā
The former prime minister was confronted about entries in Sir Patrick Vallanceās diaries in which the Chief Scientific Adviser suggested that by autumn 2020 the ex-PM wanted to ālet it ripā.
Mr Johnson firmly denied that this was his preferred option and said that during meetings he had been testing ācounter argumentsā to imposing more restrictions.
Mr Keith asked: āWas your position, Mr Johnson, that in light of your views secretly held about people dying having reached their time anyway, that you were obliged to reject the advice that there be a circuit breaker and no lockdown and try a tier system?ā
Mr Johnson said: āNo. The implication youāre trying to draw is completely wrong and my position was that we had to save human life at all ages and that was the objective of the strategy.
The former prime minister (pictured) was confronted about entries in Sir Patrick Vallanceās diaries in which the Chief Scientific Adviser suggested that by autumn 2020 the ex-PM wanted to ālet it ripā
āIf you look at what we actually did… never mind the accounts you have culled from peopleās jottings [in diaries]… what we actually did, we went into lockdown as soon as we could first time around [in March], and we sensibly went for a regional approach when the disease picked up again, and again went into lockdown on 30 to 31 October.ā
He added: āFrankly, it does not do justice… to say that we were remotely reconciled to fatalities across the country or that I believed it was acceptable to ālet it ripā.ā
DOMINIC CUMMINGS SAGA A āBAD MOMENTā
Mr Johnson was questioned about his chief adviser Dominic Cummings in Easter 2020 travelling from London to Durham, before driving to Barnard Castle to infamously ātest his eyesightā after contracting Covid-19.
It was put to the former PM that he supported Mr Cummings when allegations he had broken the rules emerged in May, with Mr Keith insisting that confidence in Mr Johnsonās administration ādipped significantlyā.
Mr Johnson said: āIt was a bad moment, I wonāt pretend otherwise.ā But he dismissed the idea that this led to a fall in compliance with lockdown rules because of a loss of confidence in his administration.
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